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04/06/2022 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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01:05:09 PM Start
01:05:29 PM HB409|| HB410
01:55:31 PM Adjourn
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+ Presentation: AKLNG Update by Alaska Gasline TELECONFERENCED
Development Corporation
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+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
*+ HB 409 APPROVE PETRO STAR INC. ROYALTY OIL SALE TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 409 Out of Committee
*+ HB 410 APPROVE MARATHON PETRO ROYALTY OIL SALE TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 410 Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 6, 2022                                                                                          
                           1:05 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josiah Patkotak, Chair                                                                                           
Representative Grier Hopkins, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                      
Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                   
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative George Rauscher                                                                                                  
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Ronald Gillham                                                                                                   
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 409                                                                                                              
"An Act approving and ratifying the sale of royalty oil by the                                                                  
State of Alaska to Petro Star Inc.; and providing for an                                                                        
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 409 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 410                                                                                                              
"An Act approving and ratifying the sale of royalty oil by the                                                                  
State of Alaska to Marathon Petroleum Supply and Trading Company                                                                
LLC; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 410 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  AKLNG UPDATE BY ALASKA GASLINE DEVELOPMENT                                                                    
CORPORATION                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - REMOVED FROM AGENDA                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 409                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: APPROVE PETRO STAR INC. ROYALTY OIL SALE                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
04/04/22       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/04/22       (H)       RES, FIN                                                                                               
04/04/22       (H)       DNR, O&G BEST INTEREST FINDING AND                                                                     
                         DETERMINATION REPORT                                                                                   
04/04/22       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/04/22       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/06/22       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 410                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: APPROVE MARATHON PETRO ROYALTY OIL SALE                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
04/04/22       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/04/22       (H)       RES, FIN                                                                                               
04/04/22       (H)       DNR, O&G BEST INTEREST FINDING AND                                                                     
                         DETERMINATION REPORT                                                                                   
04/04/22       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/04/22       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/06/22       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JHONNY MEZA, Commercial Manager                                                                                                 
Division of Oil and Gas                                                                                                         
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   During the  hearing on  HB 409 and  HB 410,                                                             
provided a PowerPoint presentation, "The  Process for the Sale of                                                               
ANS Royalty Oil In-Kind and  the Proposed Contracts with Marathon                                                               
and Petro Star," dated 3/25/22.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CROWTHER, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing on HB 409 and HB 410,                                                                 
answered questions.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DOUG CHAPADOS, President, CEO                                                                                                   
Petro Star Inc.                                                                                                                 
Arctic Slope Regional Corporation                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 409.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CASEY SULLIVAN, Government and Public Affairs Manager                                                                           
Marathon Petroleum Corporation                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 410.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:05:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  JOSIAH  PATKOTAK  called   the  House  Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   1:05  p.m.    Representatives                                                               
Hopkins, Hannan,  Rauscher, Cronk,  Gillham, McKay,  and Patkotak                                                               
were present at  the call to order.   Representatives Schrage and                                                               
Fields arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        HB 409-APPROVE PETRO STAR INC. ROYALTY OIL SALE                                                                     
         HB 410-APPROVE MARATHON PETRO ROYALTY OIL SALE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:05:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 409, "An Act approving and  ratifying the sale                                                               
of royalty  oil by the  State of Alaska  to Petro Star  Inc.; and                                                               
providing for  an effective  date." and HOUSE  BILL NO.  410, "An                                                               
Act approving and ratifying the sale  of royalty oil by the State                                                               
of Alaska to  Marathon Petroleum Supply and  Trading Company LLC;                                                               
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PATKOTAK  explained that  HB  409  and  HB 410  relate  to                                                               
approving the sale of royalty in-kind  oil to Petro Star Inc. and                                                               
Marathon  Petroleum Corporation,  respectively.    He noted  that                                                               
both bills  do the  same thing with  two different  companies and                                                               
that the bills provide approval of  the contracts for the sale of                                                               
Alaska's royalty  oil.  He pointed  out that the bills  cannot be                                                               
amended because  they are negotiated,  and the bills  are subject                                                               
to the  approval or denial  of the  legislature.  He  stated that                                                               
renewal of the  contract must happen by April 21,  [2022], or the                                                               
contract  will not  be renewed.   He  disclosed that  he and  his                                                               
family  are shareholders  of  Arctic  Slope Regional  Corporation                                                               
(ASRC) which owns Petro Star Inc.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:07:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JHONNY  MEZA,  Commercial  Manager,  Division  of  Oil  and  Gas,                                                               
Department  of Natural  Resources  (DNR),  provided a  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation, "The  Process for the  Sale of ANS Royalty  Oil In-                                                               
Kind and  the Proposed Contracts  with Marathon and  Petro Star,"                                                               
dated 3/25/22 [hard  copy included in the committee  packet].  He                                                               
displayed slide 2, "AGENDA," and  said he would be reviewing what                                                               
royalty in-kind  is, the  history of  royalty in-kind  sales, the                                                               
statutory  and  regulatory  mandate   for  royalty  in-kind,  the                                                               
process that  DNR has followed  for this sale of  royalty in-kind                                                               
oil, and the contract terms for Marathon and Petro Star.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA  turned  to  slide  4, "1.  WHAT  IS  ROYALTY  IN-KIND?                                                               
STATUTORY  REFERENCE."   He explained  that the  DNR commissioner                                                               
can elect to take the state's  royalty oil and gas in-value (RIV)                                                               
or in-kind (RIK).  When  selecting the royalty in-value, he said,                                                               
the department receives a share of  the proceeds from the sale of                                                               
oil  or gas  by the  producers, determined  by the  royalty rate.                                                               
When the department selects its  royalty in-kind, he advised, the                                                               
department is in  charge of marketing that royalty  oil [or gas].                                                               
He drew  attention to the  [3/23/22] letter from DNR  depicted on                                                               
the  slide  that  informs  the Senate  president  and  the  House                                                               
speaker  that the  state  is electing  to take  its  oil and  gas                                                               
royalty in-value.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA  moved  to  slide  5,  "1.  WHAT  IS  ROYALTY  IN-KIND?                                                               
CONTRACTUAL REFERENCE."   He  said this  is where  the department                                                               
and the producers  agree on the royalty share  on the production.                                                               
He noted  that the example  on the  left side depicts  a contract                                                               
for  an oil  and gas  lease  and the  example on  the right  side                                                               
depicts a contract for a unit agreement.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:10:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  drew attention  to the  statute depicted                                                               
on slide  4, Sec. 38.05.182,  which states that the  royalty "may                                                               
be  taken  in-kind  rather  than in  money  if  the  commissioner                                                               
determines that the taking in-kind  would be in the best interest                                                               
of the  state."   He asked whether  it must also  be in  the best                                                               
interest of [the  operator with which the  commissioner is making                                                               
the agreement].                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  replied that in this  determination for RIK it  must be                                                               
based on the best interest of  the State of Alaska, including the                                                               
citizens of the state of Alaska.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  asked whether  both sides must  agree on                                                               
the agreement.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:11:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CROWTHER,  Deputy Commissioner, Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
Department of Natural Resources  (DNR), responded that DNR leaves                                                               
it  to  the  counterparty,  the private  company  to  enter  this                                                               
negotiation and to conclude it,  to determine if it's appropriate                                                               
for their economic interest.   The private company can choose not                                                               
to receive  RIK oil from the  state if it determines  that that's                                                               
in its economic interest.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:12:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  resumed his  presentation.  He  displayed slide  6, "1.                                                               
WHAT IS ROYALTY  IN-KIND? STATE OWNERSHIP IN THE  NORTH SLOPE (AS                                                               
OF JANUARY  2022)."  He said  the map highlights the  fields from                                                               
which the state  has ownership as the royalty owner,  such as the                                                               
Kuparuk River  Unit and  Prudhoe Bay  units.   He noted  that the                                                               
Bear Tooth and Greater Moose's Tooth  units are federal land.  He                                                               
explained  that  royalty  oil  in-kind  in  the  context  of  the                                                               
proposed  contracts before  the committee,  refers to  the fields                                                               
where the state has ownership.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA proceeded  to page  8, "2.  HISTORY OF  ROYALTY IN-KIND                                                               
ALASKA  NORTH SLOPE  OIL."   He said  the graph  shows the  total                                                               
royalty from  the North  Slope that the  state has  received from                                                               
November 1979  [to July 2021],  with the grey line  depicting the                                                               
portion  that   has  been  selected   by  the   DNR  commissioner                                                               
throughout this period to be taken  in-kind.  He related that the                                                               
state has historically selected royalty  oil both in-kind and in-                                                               
value and that  about 97 percent of royalty oil  in-kind has been                                                               
from the  North Slope.  He  explained that the amount  of RIK oil                                                               
that the  state can  select depends on  the level  of production,                                                               
the royalty  rates the state  has on  its leases, and  the demand                                                               
from refineries.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA reviewed  slide 9, "2. HISTORY OF  ROYALTY IN-KIND TYPES                                                               
OF CONTRACTS  AND BUYERS."   He noted there are  both competitive                                                               
and non-competitive, negotiated, sales.   He said that 5 percent,                                                               
46 million  barrels, is  the royalty oil  in-kind that  the state                                                               
has sold  via competitive sales.   Most of the oil  that has been                                                               
sold via this  royalty in-kind program has been  dedicated to in-                                                               
state buyers.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:15:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  next discussed slide  11, "3. STATUTORY  AND REGULATORY                                                               
MANDATE  FOR  ROYALTY IN-KIND  LEGISLATIVE  APPROVAL."   He  drew                                                               
attention to the statutory language  depicted for Sec. 38.06.055,                                                               
which requires  the DNR commissioner to  get legislative approval                                                               
before executing  the RIK contracts.   He noted that  per statute                                                               
the  sale  of  royalty  by  the  DNR  commissioner  requires  the                                                               
[written]  recommendation  of  the  Alaska Royalty  Oil  and  Gas                                                               
Development  and  Advisory  Board.   However,  he  continued,  an                                                               
exception to  this requirement is  if the  sale of royalty  is to                                                               
relieve storage or market conditions,  which can only be used for                                                               
up to one year.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK  asked whether the  legislature has ever  denied a                                                               
royalty in-kind  negotiated contract that the  administration has                                                               
put forward.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  answered that he  does not know  of any denials  by the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:17:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  resumed his presentation.   He displayed slide  12, "3.                                                               
STATUTORY  AND  REGULATORY  MANDATE FOR  ROYALTY  IN-KIND  RECENT                                                               
HISTORY  OF APPROVAL."   He  explained that  the table  lists the                                                               
recent  RIK oil  contracts, beginning  with Tesoro  in 2016  [for                                                               
five years]  and Petro Star  in 2016 [for  one year and  for four                                                               
years]; with Marathon and Petro Star  in 2021 [for one year], and                                                               
the currently proposed contracts with  Marathon and Petro Star in                                                               
2022  for three  years and  five years,  respectively.   He noted                                                               
that  for multi-year  contracts the  department has  obtained the                                                               
support and  recommendation of the  Royalty Board as well  as the                                                               
approval by the legislature.  He  further noted that in the cases                                                               
where  the contracts  were  for one  year,  these contracts  were                                                               
entered to  relieve market conditions,  so the  department didn't                                                               
need the  review of  the Royalty  Board nor  the approval  of the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:19:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN  requested further  detail on  the one-year                                                               
contracts, which  appear to have  similar conditions to  what the                                                               
legislature  is currently  being  asked to  approve for  multiple                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA responded that the  statute includes an exception to the                                                               
requirement for  review by the  Royalty Board or approval  by the                                                               
legislature  when DNR  enters a  contract to  relieve storage  or                                                               
market conditions.  He said  DNR entered these one-year contracts                                                               
to relieve storage or market  conditions because at that time the                                                               
Royalty Board wasn't  fully staffed and continuing  the supply of                                                               
royalty oil  to the  in-state refineries was  needed to  meet the                                                               
demand by the citizens of the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN drew attention  to the Marathon contract in                                                               
2021 which  was 10,000-15,000  barrels per day.   She  noted that                                                               
that is  the same size as  the contract the legislature  is being                                                               
asked to  approve, but  now it  is over a  period of  three years                                                               
rather than one year.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA confirmed that is correct.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  noted that  that is  a daily  volume, so  it occurs                                                               
throughout the term, not over the full three-year term.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS asked whether the  state gets a better deal                                                               
for multi-year contracts or for the shorter-term contracts.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA  answered that  the  additional  value that  the  state                                                               
obtains varies  regardless of  whether it is  one year  or multi-                                                               
year.   He  said  that  overall, on  average,  the state  obtains                                                               
incremental revenue  and besides the additional  revenue which is                                                               
a benefit  to the state there  is the benefit of  supplying crude                                                               
oil to in-state  refineries and how that  translates into refined                                                               
products for the citizens of Alaska.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:22:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  resumed his presentation.   He discussed slides  13 and                                                               
14,  "3. STATUTORY  AND REGULATORY  MANDATE  FOR ROYALTY  IN-KIND                                                               
ROYALTY BOARD  REVIEW."  On  slide 13,  he drew attention  to the                                                               
criteria  the Royalty  Board must  consider  under the  statutory                                                               
language of  Sec. 38.06.070.  On  slide 14, he drew  attention to                                                               
the board review and recommendation  required under the statutory                                                               
language of Sec. 38.06.050.  He  noted that the right side of the                                                               
slide depicts the  documents that the Royalty  Board has provided                                                               
to  the legislature  effectuating the  board's recommendation  of                                                               
the  proposed  contracts  currently   before  the  committee  for                                                               
Marathon  and  Petro  Star.    Through  the  review  process,  he                                                               
continued,  DNR must  obtain  unanimous  vote for  recommendation                                                               
from the Royalty Board for each of these two contracts.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA moved to slide  15, "3. STATUTORY AND REGULATORY MANDATE                                                               
FOR ROYALTY  IN-KIND COMPETITIVE  VS. NON-COMPETITIVE SALE."   He                                                               
brought attention  to the statute,  Sec. 38.05.183, for  the sale                                                               
of  royalty.   He  said  the  statute  requires  the sale  be  by                                                               
competitive bid except when the  DNR commissioner determines that                                                               
conducting a non-competitive sale is  in the best interest of the                                                               
state.     For  that   purpose,  he   explained,  DNR   issues  a                                                               
solicitation of  interest gauging  the responses from  the market                                                               
participants,  and in  the case  of proposed  contracts that  are                                                               
non-competitive, this  decision is  in the  best interest  of the                                                               
state.  He noted that about  95 percent of the department's sales                                                               
have been made in a non-competitive basis.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA reviewed slide 16,  "3. STATUTORY AND REGULATORY MANDATE                                                               
FOR ROYALTY  IN-KIND SALE WITHIN  THE STATE  OR FOR EXPORT?"   He                                                               
stated  that the  map depicts  where the  refineries are  located                                                               
within Alaska,  and the map is  intended to reflect that  most of                                                               
the  sales of  royalty oil  in-kind have  been dedicated  for in-                                                               
state refineries.   He drew attention to  the regulatory language                                                               
under AS 38.05.183(d),  which states:  "Oil or gas  taken in kind                                                               
by the state  as its royalty share or gas  delivered to the state                                                               
under AS  43.55.014(b) may not  be sold or otherwise  disposed of                                                               
for export from the state  until the commissioner determines that                                                               
the  oil  or  gas  is   surplus  to  the  present  and  projected                                                               
intrastate domestic and industrial needs."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:25:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA proceeded  to slide  17, "3.  STATUTORY AND  REGULATORY                                                               
MANDATE FOR ROYALTY IN-KIND  INFORMATION ON IN-STATE REFINERIES."                                                               
He related that  in the proposed contracts DNR has  asked for and                                                               
received information  from Marathon,  which operates  the Nikiski                                                               
refinery,  and Petro  Star,  which operates  the  North Pole  and                                                               
Valdez  refineries.   He  reported that  the  production for  the                                                               
Nikiski  refinery is  around 55,000  barrels per  day of  refined                                                               
product, which  includes [30  percent jet  fuel to  Anchorage, 27                                                               
percent gasoline, and  43 percent a mix of  liquid petroleum gas,                                                               
distillate, vacuum gas oil, fuel  oil, and seasonal asphalt.]  He                                                               
further reported that  the North Pole and  Valdez refineries have                                                               
maximum  capacities  of  22,000   and  60,000  barrels  per  day,                                                               
respectively,  and the  mix  is  [65 percent]  jet  fuel and  [35                                                               
percent] ultra-low sulfur diesel,  asphalt, and heating oil, with                                                               
no  gasoline produced  by these  two refineries.   For  all three                                                               
refineries,  he  related,  the majority  of  refined  product  is                                                               
dedicated for  consumption within Alaska, only  a minor component                                                               
is dedicated to outside of  Alaska.  Regarding where the refiners                                                               
obtain  their crude  oil, he  said the  Nikiski refinery  obtains                                                               
about [60 percent]  from the North Slope, [20  percent] from Cook                                                               
Inlet,  and  [20] percent  from  other  sources  in the  U.S.  or                                                               
foreign sources.  For the  two Petro Star refineries, he conveyed                                                               
that 100 percent  comes from the North Slope.   He drew attention                                                               
to the bottom of the table depicting the numbers of employees.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  asked where  the 20 percent  of non-Alaska                                                               
crude oil comes from that is obtained by the Nikiski refinery.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA replied  that DNR  doesn't know  that information.   He                                                               
suggested obtaining it directly from the company.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER related that Marathon  has said in other legislative                                                               
testimony that in  recent years it has been closer  to 90 percent                                                               
within-Alaska  sources.   He offered  his understanding  that the                                                               
majority has been  from other U.S. sources, but  that the company                                                               
certainly also  has international sources.   He said  the company                                                               
keeps that information proprietary for commercial reasons.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:28:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  resumed his  presentation.  He  continued to  slide 18,                                                               
"3. STATUTORY AND REGULATORY MANDATE  FOR ROYALTY IN-KIND PRICING                                                               
REQUIREMENT  FOR RIK."   He  said  the graph  depicts a  critical                                                               
piece of information for these  contracts.  He explained that the                                                               
zero line  on the graph represents  the point at which  the price                                                               
of royalty oil in-kind equals  the price of royalty oil in-value.                                                               
He said the blue circles  represent that the price the department                                                               
received  by selling  royalty oil  in-kind was  greater than  the                                                               
proceeds that DNR received from  the producers when choosing this                                                               
royalty in-value.   The red  squares, he continued, show  the few                                                               
instances where  the department  obtained a  lower price  for its                                                               
royalty oil  in-kind than the  royalty in-value.  He  pointed out                                                               
that overall,  on average,  from January  2008 to  December 2021,                                                               
the state  obtained 93 cents for  each barrel of royalty  oil in-                                                               
kind in  addition to what  it would  have received had  the state                                                               
elected  all its  royalty in-value.    In other  words, Mr.  Meza                                                               
advised,  the  state  generated an  additional  $137  million  in                                                               
revenue  by entering  these royalty  oil  in-kind contracts,  and                                                               
total  proceeds  from  these  RIK  sales  amount  to  almost  $11                                                               
billion.    He stated  that  this  complies with  the  regulatory                                                               
language of  11 AAC  03.026(b) which requires  that the  price of                                                               
royalty oil  in-kind should  be at  least equal  to the  price of                                                               
royalty oil in-value.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:30:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  moved to the  fourth section  of his presentation.   He                                                               
drew attention  to slides  20 and  21, "4.  THE PROCESS  THAT DNR                                                               
FOLLOWED FOR  THIS SALE OF RIK  OIL."  He displayed  slide 20 and                                                               
stated that  for the Marathon  and Petro Star contracts,  DNR has                                                               
followed  the language  from the  statutes  and regulations  that                                                               
determine how  the process  for the sale  of royalty  oil in-kind                                                               
should be conducted.  In this  process, he said, DNR involved the                                                               
Royalty Board in  the decisions making the  determinations by the                                                               
commissioner required by the statute,  but also the review by the                                                               
Royalty  Board and  the  ability for  the  department to  provide                                                               
comments.  He related that slide  21 shows that DNR evaluated the                                                               
expiration  date of  these RIK  processes and  considered whether                                                               
the   sale  of   RIK  should   be  done   on  a   competitive  or                                                               
noncompetitive  basis,  and for  sale  within  the state  or  for                                                               
export,  and  whether  it  should   be  long-term  or  short-term                                                               
contracts.   He said the  department published a  Solicitation of                                                               
Interest gauging  the information  from the market  and evaluated                                                               
those  responses and  decided to  conduct a  noncompetitive sale.                                                               
The department  informed the Royalty  Board of this  position, he                                                               
continued, and conducted negotiations  with the parties that show                                                               
interest,  which were  Marathon  and  Petro Star.    He said  the                                                               
department published a preliminary  best interest finding showing                                                               
why  these proposed  contracts are  in the  best interest  of the                                                               
state  and DNR  provided  a  30-day public  comment  period.   He                                                               
advised that DNR  received no comments from the  public but there                                                               
was an  extensive review by  the Royalty Board on  these proposed                                                               
contracts and  DNR obtained unanimous  approval.  After  that, he                                                               
said,  the department  published  a final  best interest  finding                                                               
which  was  provided  to  the legislature,  which  is  where  the                                                               
process currently is.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:32:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS asked  whether  it is  accurate to  assume                                                               
that if DNR was doing  a competitive sale, realistically the only                                                               
competing entities  would be in-state  refineries and not  out of                                                               
state refineries.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA replied that in  the publication of this solicitation of                                                               
interest, DNR  obtained three  responses from  entities.   Out of                                                               
those three responses, he continued,  only two showed interest in                                                               
buying royalty oil in-kind.   He said DNR therefore evaluated how                                                               
much  benefit the  department would  obtain by  doing an  auction                                                               
with  only two  participants versus  negotiating separately  with                                                               
each one.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  observed from  the history of  the program                                                               
that  the  department  has more  frequently  concluded  that  the                                                               
noncompetitive route gets a better deal  for the state.  He asked                                                               
whether  that  is primarily  a  result  of  the small  number  of                                                               
bidders,  so   a  competitive   environment  really   isn't  that                                                               
competitive or  whether other there  are other factors  that make                                                               
the noncompetitive sale approach more beneficial for the state.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  responded that  besides the number  of responses  it is                                                               
also because of  the requirement in regulations  and statute that                                                               
the department  make a  written finding  that in-state  demand is                                                               
met  and  before  there  can  be  royalty  oil  for  export,  the                                                               
department needs  to secure a price  that is at least  as much as                                                               
royalty in-value.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:34:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:34:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA resumed his presentation  and reviewed the fifth section                                                               
of  his presentation  provided  on slides  22-28.   He  displayed                                                               
slide  23,  "5.  CONTRACT  TERMS  FOR  MARATHON  AND  PETRO  STAR                                                               
OVERVIEW OF  RECENT AND  PROPOSED RIK CONTRACT  TERMS."   He drew                                                               
attention  to the  column labeled  "Netback  pricing" and  stated                                                               
that  these contracts  have the  same  valuation methodology,  so                                                               
there  was  no  change  with  respect  to  the  current  proposed                                                               
contract versus the  ones that were entered about  six years ago.                                                               
He explained  that a netback  methodology is followed  which uses                                                               
the  pricing of  U.S.  royalty oil  in the  U.S.  West Coast  and                                                               
considers all the components that  are necessary to determine the                                                               
price  of royalty  oil at  the field  because that  is the  point                                                               
where DNR,  the state,  transferred title of  its royalty  oil to                                                               
the  buyer.   He  advised that  the  state is  not  in charge  of                                                               
transporting or  taking any risk  when transferring  that royalty                                                               
oil.    He said  the  column,  "RIK  differential," shows  a  key                                                               
negotiating  term  of  these  contracts,   which  is  the  dollar                                                               
deduction that  determines the  value of royalty  oil.   He noted                                                               
that the value  has increased from $1.95 per barrel  to $2.25 per                                                               
barrel for Petro Star and $2.23 per barrel for Marathon.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK  asked whether  the refined  product from  the oil                                                               
that was taken in-kind is wholly  used in the in-state market for                                                               
sale or used by any state agencies.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  answered that  the department  provides royalty  oil to                                                               
the buyer,  the refiner,  and the refiner  is the  one extracting                                                               
refined product from  that crude oil, [the state]  does not enter                                                               
the market of refined products.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:37:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER   inquired  whether  there  is   a  time                                                               
specific date.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  returned to slide  21 and  pointed out that  the 1-year                                                               
RIK contact with  Marathon ends on 7/31/22.  He  said a provision                                                               
with which  DNR must comply  is to provide three-month  notice to                                                               
the North  Slope producers before  electing this royalty  oil in-                                                               
kind.   This  three-month notice,  he explained,  means DNR  must                                                               
have the  following contract with  Marathon executed  by 4/22/22.                                                               
Should  DNR take  one  week or  one month  longer  than that,  he                                                               
continued, then it  means the refinery will have one  week or one                                                               
month to be  done with the royalty oil.   While the refiner still                                                               
has provisions from North Slope  producers, he added, the royalty                                                               
oil is also important.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER inquired  whether the  market volatility                                                               
of the  last month  has given  DNR pause on  this or  whether DNR                                                               
remains comfortable.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA replied  that DNR  believes these  contracts have  been                                                               
structured  to  account  for  that  volatility,  which  has  also                                                               
occurred  in the  past.   He related  that there  was substantial                                                               
volatility during the 14-year period  in which the state obtained                                                               
a premium of  $0.93 per barrel, and so DNR  is not that concerned                                                               
about volatility.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:39:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN  requested elaboration on  Chair Patkotak's                                                               
opening reference to the date of 4/21/22.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PATKOTAK offered  his original  understanding that  it was                                                               
4/20/22.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN asked whether that is for a floor vote.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK explained that both  bills are moving through both                                                               
bodies.  He deferred to Mr. Crowther to provide further detail.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER answered  that  DNR must  execute  the contract  by                                                               
4/22/22, and  to execute the  contract DNR must have  an enacting                                                               
bill from the legislature prior to  that date.  So, he stated, if                                                               
both bodies  of the legislature  pass the bills and  the governor                                                               
signs the  bills by 4/22/22, DNR  can keep the contract  and have                                                               
an uninterrupted supply.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PATKOTAK noted  that consideration  must be  given to  the                                                               
time it takes for transmittal to occur after a vote.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER confirmed that is correct.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:40:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HANNAN, regarding  if that  didn't happen,  asked                                                               
whether  there  would  be  an interruption  in  the  contract  or                                                               
whether the bill would expire if not completed by 4/22/22.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER CROWTHER responded that the  bill does not expire on                                                               
that date,  there would just  be an interruption in  the contract                                                               
and supply,  and it  would be  up to the  refinery, in  this case                                                               
Marathon, to either  limit runs or to seek  an alternative source                                                               
of supply subject to that uncertainty.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN noted  that she wanted it on  the record as                                                               
to whether it would be a delay rather than a disappearance.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:42:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCKAY observed  on  slide 21  that the  contracts                                                               
with  Marathon and  Petro  Star go  until  7/31/22 and  12/31/22,                                                               
respectively.   He offered  his understanding  that if  [the bill                                                               
was not  signed by  the governor  by 4/22/22],  then it  would go                                                               
back to the previous contract.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  answered that the  shortfall or  interruption would                                                               
not occur  in April;  it would  potentially occur  at the  end of                                                               
that contract because  DNR must do the 90-day  notification.  So,                                                               
he continued,  DNR would technically  be tardy in  not nominating                                                               
those barrels  to receive them  with the upstream  producers, and                                                               
so  in theory  DNR wouldn't  be  eligible to  receive them  until                                                               
"that Q3 2022 period, later in that period."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:43:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER thanked  Representative  Hannan for  her                                                               
clarification  because  he  was  looking  for  the  legislature's                                                               
timetable, not the department's.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK asked whether the panel had further questions.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:43:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  resumed his presentation.   He displayed slide  24, "5.                                                               
CONTRACT TERMS  FOR MARATHON AND  PETRO STAR RIK  DIFFERENTIAL IS                                                               
THE SOURCE  OF THE PREMIUM OF  RIK OVER RIV."   He explained that                                                               
this slide provides a comparison of  how the value of royalty oil                                                               
is determined when the state  selects its royalty in-value versus                                                               
royalty in-kind.   He  drew attention  to the  chart on  the left                                                               
depicting what  happens when  the state  selects its  royalty in-                                                               
value.  For this, he said,  DNR allows some deductions related to                                                               
the transportation of  oil to the U.S. West Coast.   He then drew                                                               
attention to  the chart on  the right depicting  royalty in-kind,                                                               
which is not  physically transported to the U.S.  West Coast, but                                                               
rather  sold to  an  in-state  refinery in  Alaska.   He  brought                                                               
attention to Step 2 highlighted in  yellow on both charts for the                                                               
oil in-value marine transportation  allowance and the oil in-kind                                                               
differential  and noted  that that  comparison is  what generates                                                               
the premium to which he referred earlier.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA proceeded  to slide 25, "5. CONTRACT  TERMS FOR MARATHON                                                               
AND PETRO STAR  RIK DIFFERENTIAL IS THE SOURCE OF  THE PREMIUM OF                                                               
RIK OVER  RIV."  He said  the blue line  at the top of  the graph                                                               
represents the marine transportation  allowance and the grey line                                                               
represents the  RIK differential.  The  vertical distance between                                                               
those  two  lines, he  continued,  indicates  the source  of  the                                                               
incremental  revenue  that  the  state  obtains  by  selling  its                                                               
royalty oil in-kind.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:45:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA turned to slide 26,  "5. CONTRACT TERMS FOR MARATHON AND                                                               
PETRO STAR FLEXIBILITY FOR BUYER  AND SELLER."  He explained that                                                               
there is  some flexibility or  benefits given to the  royalty in-                                                               
kind buyers,  the refinery, as  well as benefits  and flexibility                                                               
for the state.  He advised  that the buyer has the flexibility of                                                               
nominating zero barrels or reducing  their nominations subject to                                                               
the  approval of  the commissioner.   As  the seller,  he further                                                               
advised,  DNR  has  the  flexibility   of  not  guaranteeing  any                                                               
quantity, quality, or source of royalty  oil because DNR is not a                                                               
North  Slope  producer,  it  is a  royalty  owner  and  therefore                                                               
protected from  that type  of risk.   If the  state were  to have                                                               
excess royalty  to dispose of  and the  buyers were to  have more                                                               
demand for  that, the contract  would allow for  additional sales                                                               
of that royalty oil.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA moved  to slide 27, "5. CONTRACT TERMS  FOR MARATHON AND                                                               
PETRO STAR OTHER  PROVISIONS."  He said DNR, or  the state, being                                                               
a seller and  the refiners being a buyer could  involve a risk of                                                               
nonperformance or  default of  payment.  To  cover that  risk, he                                                               
explained,  the  department  and  buyers  have  agreed  that  the                                                               
guarantor of these  buyers, or refiners, provide  either a letter                                                               
of credit, surety bond, or opinion  letter to DNR to protect from                                                               
that default risk.  The  value of that financial assurance varies                                                               
by refinery; it  could be equal to 90 days'  worth of royalty oil                                                               
for Marathon  or 50 days'  worth of  royalty oil for  Petro Star.                                                               
There is  a retroactivity  clause in the  contract in  case there                                                               
are  revisions in  the future  after an  invoice is  paid by  the                                                               
buyer, allowing the  buyer or the state to  reflect more accurate                                                               
information in that calculation.   Last, there are two provisions                                                               
that encourage  the buyer,  or refinery,  to process  the royalty                                                               
oil within the  state as refined products for the  benefit of the                                                               
citizens of Alaska  and it encourages the buyer  to employ Alaska                                                               
residents to the extent that  they are available, willing, and at                                                               
least as qualified as other candidates.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA concluded  his presentation with slide  28, "5. CONTRACT                                                               
TERMS  FOR MARATHON  AND PETRO  STAR  CONTRACTS ARE  IN THE  BEST                                                               
INTEREST OF THE STATE."   He related that the additional revenue,                                                               
which DNR  is required to earn  for each of these  contracts, was                                                               
$31 million and $23 million for  the 2016 contracts.  He said the                                                               
estimated additional  revenue for  the proposed contracts  is $3-                                                               
$14 million for Marathon and $17-$19 million for Petro Star.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:48:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK  explained he would  now take public  testimony on                                                               
each of the bills individually.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:48:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK opened public testimony on HB 409.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:48:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUG  CHAPADOS, President,  CEO,  Petro Star  Inc., Arctic  Slope                                                               
Regional  Corporation (ASRC),  testified  in support  of HB  409,                                                               
Petro Star's proposed  five-year royalty oil contract.   He noted                                                               
that  Petro Star  is a  wholly owned  subsidiary of  Arctic Slope                                                               
Regional Corporation  (ASRC) and  the state's only  Alaskan owned                                                               
refiner.   He  said Petro  Star has  fuel distribution  terminals                                                               
located in Anchorage, Valdez, Kodiak,  Dutch Harbor, and Interior                                                               
Alaska.   He related  that Petro  Star also  operates two  of the                                                               
state's three  commercial refineries, one  in North Pole  and the                                                               
other in Valdez,  most of which draw crude oil  directly from the                                                               
Trans Alaska  Pipeline System (TAPS).   He pointed out  that TAPS                                                               
is  the only  source of  crude oil  supply to  Petro Star,  which                                                               
means contracts  such as the  one currently before  the committee                                                               
are essential  to Petro  Star's continued  operation.   From this                                                               
crude  oil,  he  continued,  Petro Star  produces  a  variety  of                                                               
products,  including jet  fuel for  commercial airlines,  over 90                                                               
percent of  the jet  fuel consumed at  Department of  Defense and                                                               
U.S. Coast Guard installations located  across the state, heating                                                               
oil for  residential and  commercial customers,  ultra-low sulfur                                                               
diesel  fuels for  on- and  off-road uses,  marine diesel  fuels,                                                               
asphalt oil  for road paving  projects, and  specialty low-sulfur                                                               
turbine fuel  for the exclusive  use of Golden Valley  and Copper                                                               
Valley  electric  associations.     Mr.  Chapados  said  that  as                                                               
testified  to by  DNR staff  and explained  in the  Best Interest                                                               
Finding (BIF),  this contract is good  for the state in  terms of                                                               
maximizing  the  revenues  generated from  Alaska's  royalty  oil                                                               
share.   It  also  benefits  Alaskans, he  added,  by helping  to                                                               
maintain the  instate petroleum refining industry  and preserving                                                               
competition  within the  state's  fuels markets.    He urged  the                                                               
committee to approve the bill.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:51:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PATKOTAK   closed  public   testimony  on  HB   409  after                                                               
ascertaining that no one else wished to testify.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:51:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  moved to report  HB 409 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
note.   There being  no objection,  HB 409 was  moved out  of the                                                               
House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:52:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK opened public testimony on HB 410.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:52:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CASEY SULLIVAN,  Government and Public Affairs  Manager, Marathon                                                               
Petroleum  Corporation,  testified in  support  of  HB 410.    He                                                               
stated that the availability, the  flexibility, and the stability                                                               
that  this  contract  offers  will  have  a  positive  impact  on                                                               
Marathon's  ability  to optimize  its  ongoing  operation at  its                                                               
Kenai  refinery.   He said  the Kenai  refinery has  been one  of                                                               
Alaska's   longest  in-state   manufacturers  producing   quality                                                               
transportation fuels  that have  moved Alaskans  since 1969.   He                                                               
underscored  that the  legislation  before the  committee is  the                                                               
result  of  constructive  dialogue  and  productive  negotiations                                                               
between  the  Division of  Oil  and  Gas  and Marathon,  and  the                                                               
contract provides  a positive shared  value to all Alaskans.   He                                                               
pointed out that the division's  best interest finding found that                                                               
the state will continue to receive a price for its royalty in-                                                                  
kind oil that is in keeping  with oil in-value.  For Marathon, he                                                               
continued, the contract provides a  stable supply of Alaska North                                                               
Slope  crude  while  also  giving  Marathon  the  flexibility  to                                                               
accommodate seasonal fluctuations in  demand for refined product.                                                               
He  said Marathon  is  committed to  its  longstanding legacy  of                                                               
safely  and  reliably  producing  quality fuel.    He  urged  the                                                               
passage of HB 410.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:54:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PATKOTAK   closed  public   testimony  on  HB   410  after                                                               
ascertaining that no one else wished to testify.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:55:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  moved to report  HB 410 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.   There being  no objection  HB 410 was  moved out  of the                                                               
House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:55:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:55:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                
Resources Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 1:55 p.m.]                                                                

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Presentation AGDC Alaska LNG Update 4.6.2022.pdf HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
AKLNG
Presentation Royalty in Kind 3.28.2022.pdf HRES 3/28/2022 1:00:00 PM
HRES 4/4/2022 1:00:00 PM
HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
RIK
HB 409 Final BIF Petro Star 3.28.2022.pdf HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 409
HB 409 Letter of Support - Petro Star 4.6.2022.pdf HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 409
HB 409 Royalty Board Report - PetroStar 3.28.2022.pdf HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 409
HB 409 Royalty Board Resolution - PetroStar 3.28.2022.pdf HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 409
HB 410 Final BIF Marathon 3.28.2022.pdf HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 410
HB 410 Royalty Board Report - Marathon 3.28.2022.pdf HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 410
HB 410 Royalty Board Resolution - Marathon 3.28.2022.pdf HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 410
HB 409 Draft Fiscal Note DNR DOG 4.6.2022.pdf HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 409
HB 410 Draft Fiscal Note DNR DOG 4.6.2022.pdf HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 410
HB 410 Letter of Support - Marathon Petroleum 4.6.2022.pdf HRES 4/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 410